User talk:Angela

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Is there any reason to still have these pages around? I don't see them on en:, so they look like leftovers. -- Netoholic @ 21:21, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

They'll be needed for next June. I don't think they do any harm staying there for now, do they? Angela 02:28, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

No, no harm. Like I said, I saw that they were here and not on en:, so I wondered if they were deprecated. -- Netoholic @ 06:09, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The messages were never on en. I assume they're somewhere else, like in the language file, and only Wikipedias using the non-default needed MediaWiki pages for this. Angela 17:23, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Quadell.jpg

Hi Angela. Could you delete Image:Quadell.jpg for me? I've moved it to the Commons. Thanks! Quadell 14:24, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Done. Angela 16:15, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Vandalizer: Gracker!

Hey, it's Wolfj. You probably don't know who I am, though. I am reporting MAJOR vandalism by some jerk named Gracker. He has been vandalizing pages made by Turcottem and I. Since you are an admin, I just thought you could take some action. (Note: Please don't use my name.)Wolfj 19:46, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Change of attribution

How do I arrange for my edits as User:80.176.248.205 to be re-attributed to me as User:Phil Boswell? I have been using the former because the system has been very slow for logged-in users. --Phil|Talk 12:29, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

You can ask at en:Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit, but there is a very long back-log and no guarantee that this will ever be done. Unfortuntely, this is something that only a developer can do. Angela 03:55, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Angela can you help

I did read your pseudo at different places here. You seem to be a kind of VIP. Can you help me in following matter:

"Hi

I did work this evening 2 hours in this part of wikipedia and after that my pages did disappair after an imperative request of a troll with the pseudo netoholic, the author of the totaly useless and for this reason nonsens list of 850 words of basic english, a list being extremly easy to find in english (in other languages, it is different! the access of the different translations = significations of the 850 english basic english word is very hard to get in france and difficult enough in germany! and i suppose that it will not be better in other countries...) on the web and in diverse book too, to brake my work! For me it is not a hasard but i suppose that netoholic did erase my work.

In my eyes is natoholic probably an troll. On many points on his discussions page it is the question of annoyance! Natoholic seems to be a magnet for unpeace! I am really unplaised that he didn't give me the possibility to save my long work. Find you really that it is a good and fair kind of social intercourse on a web enterprise where fairnis has to be an principal matter of success? In presence of such a despise a lot of people can be tempted to act against wikipedia. vandalism is a matter who interess Natoholic, i see on his page! of course: Natoholic give the other no chance to choice a different way: Natoholic will an causes war on wikipedia! and after that are the other the bad boys...

Is wikipedia a entreprise of "little kings" or "little gods"?"

The above was written by User:213.54.178.215. I imagine this is the same user as User:213.54.21.190. They created two pages, which I redirected back to Basic English - An audio-visual way into English through pictures and The General Basic English Dictionary. He was creating pages for a number of different Basic English books, so I suggested a better method of handling things on that IPs talk page, basically by just adding simple citations. Obviously, I didn't delete anything. It is still debatable whether I am a troll or not, though. :) -- Netoholic @ 00:49, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

please see http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism_in_progress#Older_alerts and different other pages I will write in Wikipedia in the next days on the thema "vandalism": If wikipedia is happy to have a lot of "little kings" you will never be free to have difficulties... wikipedia can be a good thing. but wikipedia can also be a satanic thing under the cover of surface democraty!

Please don't call people trolls without reason. Blanking another user's talk page is considered vandalism. I suggest you log in so you can discuss this sensibly with Netoholic as he has requested you do. Angela 21:22, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Please don't call people trolls without reason

Hi Angela! "Please don't call people trolls without reason". But if I have reasons? What is the competence of Netoholic to decide if a page is a matter for this site or not? If Netoholic starts a war with a new comer who don't uses bad words or write tendencious topics, he is a troll and causes the begin of a destructive process... I have good reason why I did place my informations on this site and I find it is a good reason of the existence for this site. Only to make the same as on the main English Wikipedia site, would be a separate site for simple English nonsens. "Simple English" is also a nonsens. It is infatuate pidjin English or poor full English? Can you define Simple English? The only one rational approach for that is to reserve such site for a real standard type of limited English and 2 standards exist really: Basic English and VAO English! It is the flagrant evidence of lack of competence.

Hi Angela! I did find my pages again (through the "history"; probably I am now expert in using of history on wikipedia pages...). The troll WAS Netoholic: we can see it in the history. Your site is a real factory for trolls. I am sorry for you! I can understand that this work is important for you. I did see your old pages from Mai 2003 etc. I did see the old pages of Netoholic. But it is not a reason to handle in such a maniere against persons who are working in a different way as you. You have your opinion. And other people have also her opinion... If you want only see your opinion or if Netoholic want to see only his opinion, it would be better for you to publish only on a closed site like the basic english site etc... in an other case, you get war because your own comportment is unfreedly! I did see, that you have a big activity concerning "vandalism", "trolls" etc. but your own comportment (you, all the old "owner" of this site) is probably the most important reason of this reaction of other people. I will post this message on the discussion page of Netoholic and go away. You are poor people, and deform Basic English in such way that Basic English can't be any a serious alternative for other people. Your enterprise is really a very bad enterprise...

Logo

It seems that consensus is to get a logo designed like option "E" on Wikipedia:Simple talk#Logo. In understand there is a desire to make Simple distinct, and I agree, but let's kill two birds with one stone and get the right design made up. -- Netoholic @ 08:10, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Replied at your talk page. Angela 22:39, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Basic English Wordlist

I had a discussion with Netoholic about including spelling variants in the wordlist, but s/he simply refuses to do so, although there are very good reasons to include variants. This wikipedia allows both British and American spellings and the list should reflect that. I would appreciate it, if you could have a look: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Basic_English_alphabetical_wordlist 202.32.3.147 10:51, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've made a suggestion at Wikipedia talk:Basic English alphabetical wordlist. Angela

Hello!

Hello, Angela. I'd just like to say that you have made many a helpful edit to the site. You are incredibly good at your job as an admin. I just thought I'd tell you that! The J-Man 19:14, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC) (My real username is "Wolfj.")

I'm not sure I agree. I've hardly had time to be a decent admin here lately. Angela

Just to let you know, Angela, i am not reporting vandalism from sock puppets, but it kinda has to do with it. Gracker wants to leave the site, but he dosen't want his name to just be used as a "toy" for other people to use it. Gracker is granting me permission to use his user name. now hear me out, i will follow three simple rules:

                    1.i will not vandalize
                    2.i will not use Jonesc as long as i am Gracker
                    3.i will write articles that actually have a meaning to them(unlike amphibian visual cortex)

I only ask one more thing from you, clear Gracker's file so people still won't think i am a vandalist, that is, if you let me become Gracker.You cxan block me and Gracker if you let me be Gracker and i use Jonesc-Jonesc

I can't clear people's contributions lists if that's what you mean. Perhaps it would be best to get a new user name and start afresh? Angela 19:38, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hey, my name is Moonshine, and I am new to this website, pass the word around!!! MOonshine... out. JewishLuvah 19:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Main Page

Has been protected since Dec., is this permanant now?

No, I don't think it should be. Angela 11:26, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Just so you know, I've re-protected it per Talk:Main Page. -- Netoholic @ 19:37, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sysop

Hi. I just came here from regular wikipedia, and recognized your name. Since it seems that you are one by this page, and I've been wondering anyway, does this wikipedia have sysops, stewards, and all that? Howabout1 22:59, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes it does. See Special:Listadmins for the list of admins and Wikipedia:Administrators for info on which of those are active. SimonMayer is the wiki's bureaucrat since I resigned. Stewards don't operate on individual wikis, but across them all. See m:stewards for a list of them. Angela 17:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Angela

Sorry, I just wouldn't feel welcome after all of the nasty comments left on my Talk page and on the mailing list. RickK 04:26, July 23, 2005 (UTC)

New image deletion page

I have created a page for image deletion requests just like the English Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. So, please note that there may be deletion requests of images and media there in future. • Thorpe • 21:05, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Dispute resolution

Angela, I'm going to ask if you can help me with Netoholic's behavior. Recently he deleted Image:Simple English Wikipedia.PNG enough though the request for deletion was clearly against that (see the log). You can see on his talk page that this is not an isolated incident and that he's already driven away User:MarcoVD. Between him and NickGorton's sock puppet allegations (I've completely given up on trying to reason with about Talk:Homosexuality and left that article for him to do whatever he wants), we need to establish some sort of controls here. I might be the next to leave, frankly. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:25, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Simple is in a bad predicament. First of all, we have throngs of editors who are largely refugees from EN: - either because they feel lost in the mix there, or have a particular POV approach which meets resistance there. They re-create articles and WP processes here without considering this project as anything but Yet Another english Wikipedia. Thorpe, who created that screenshot, is one of these types.

This wiki can be one of the best if we concentrate on providing and maintaining a strictly-defined "core" of article subjects which can be translated or perhaps some day printed. en: Wikipedia 1.0 will never be a reality. Simple could achieve it with some stronger self-regulation. If that means some editors leave, then they have their native language wiki to go to. -- Netoholic @ 21:02, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Honestly, if you Netoholic continue to revert my edits like at Template:Stub without any explanation other than it doesn't fit your personal view contary to everyone else's views, I'll be the next to leave. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:02, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

You should go. Net's right. If you aren't with us, you're against us. Go and leave us alone to work on this wiki. The last thing this wiki needs is useless editors like you.

Maybe you were too busy not signing your edit here to notice that Ricky has been very busy improving simple, adding categories, editing articles, and making things much better. BallSack 02:01, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Please note that it was not me that added that unsigned comment. Anyone wanting to improve this wiki is welcome to do as long as they abide by the relevant policies. Angela 15:59, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Someone tell why I should stay

Someone tell me why I should stay and continue to improve Simple like I have been doing, when one administrator (netoholic) can go against all of discussion and delete everything and say "You are not wanted here" ? So tell me why I should keep contributing to wiki when administrator has that kind of attitude. I am very sad now. 216.56.27.87 22:51, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't think he said you're not welcome, just that stub types aren't. Angela 23:02, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

I was hoping you might be around. It was painful to watch--I'd forgotten how much easier it is do deal with vandalism with Admin tools--there's no way I could keep up manually without being able to block. Hopefully I can get the Admin tools here some day. Freshstart 03:32, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Glad to see you're back

Glad to see you're back on simple, Angela! Flcelloguy 16:15, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Page which needs to be simplified

Hello Angela. I need to refer a page to you which I think needs to be simplified in a big way. Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei contains way too many foreign words to make it easy enough for users with limited command of the English language to be able to read. Could you please review the article and what your view on this article would be. It either needs to be simplified or deleted in my opinion. Thank you for your help. Tmalmjursson 22:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

It's tagged as unsimple, so I guess it's just a matter of waiting for someone to simplify it. I don't think there's a reason to delete it straight away. Angela

email confirmation

Please go to Special:Confirmemail and confirm your email address, so that people can contact you in case of vandalism, accidental blocks, etc. Thanks. -- Netoholic @ 07:00, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. Angela 12:53, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment requested

Dear Angela, I don't know how much you are still around Simple English Wikipedia, but I would like your comment on Wikipedia talk:Simple English Wikipedia#Policy issue because you were part of the discussion on Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not and this discussion is directly related. Thanks! --Cromwellt|talk 20:17, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think the Simple English Wiktionary should even exist. Angela 12:53, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your comment. Your input is valuable. I do not know if you looked at the page I referred to above or not, but it seems as if you might not have, so perhaps you will allow me to give you a short explanation of my personal reasons for thinking it should exist.

Basically, it should exist for the same reason that Simple English Wikipedia itself should exist: to be a simplified resource for people who do not know English well. When a person who for whatever reason does not know English well (our target audience) comes on Simple English Wikipedia, they often need definitions of many words. English Wiktionary uses definitions that are often (but not always) too complicated and require looking up other words to understand the definition. Simple English Wiktionary uses simpler definitions so that people with less English knowledge can understand them. This exactly corresponds to Simple English Wikipedia's simpler articles on encyclopedic topics. Definitions should not be here either, because this is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary, and for the same reasons that definitions are on English Wiktionary, not English Wikipedia. Thus, Simple English Wiktionary fills a gap and is a valuable resource, IMO. --Cromwellt|talk 16:26, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

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Hello Angela. Could you write here what you think about this version of Main Page, please? Greets, odder 17:24, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Cloak

Can you give me a cloak? -- aflm ^Talk 20:35, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I think en:User:Essjay is dealing with cloaks now. Angela 01:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

A major matter to deal with here...

I would apppreciate it if you could block whoever is responsible for creating those sockpuppet accounts to disrupt the project and my work:

• Maybe you all should try to protect the page and do an IP check
• So it took fifteen minutes, not 4 hours
• Another one to offend me while trying to stop him or her: Name withheld.

Now that same person's going to create more accounts, and it'll get much worse by dawn local time!

When I go to Wikipedia:Administrators, I will place my request so that my work can continue smoothly. In the meantime, please block the IP(s) of this user and warn them off. --Slgrandson 07:18, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

#vandalism-simple-wp

Forgive the spamming of admin talk pages, but I wanted to inform all the active admins that there is now a Counter Vandalism Unit IRC channel devoted to Simple English Wikipedia. If anyone is interest: #vandalism-simple-wp. -- Psy guy 16:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

WikiReader

Would you mind taking a look at my WikiReader proposal on Wikipedia:Simple talk? I think it could be a fantastic way to go for the Simple English encyclopedia. Archer7 16:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Netoholic

I would appreciate your comments on Simple talk regarding User:Netoholic. Netoholic has claimed that my actions were inappropriate, and I would like to know what you think. _Archer7 | ^talk 10:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello

I came to say hello to you. How do you do? I also work in English wikipedia as W:User:Bhadani. Thank you. --Bhadani 15:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Trust in Wikipedia

this is Cathy from Hong Kong working on a research about trust on Wikipedia. I wonder if you would kindly contact me at researchingmedia@gmail.com? I'd like to chat with you about Wikipedia of your language. Would you kindly drop me your email or IM (Skype, MSN, AIM or ICQ)? It wouldn't take more than ten minutes, but it would help enormously for us to understand the overall trust-based social landscape of Wikipedia. Thank you!

Thank you

Thank you so much for coming online at that moment to block him. You are a lifesaver! Billz (Talk) 15:24, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, nice work. I was hoping to help out, but you seem to have gotten everything for the time being. I couldn't even find anything you'd missed! You can de-op whenever you think appropriate though I don't mind using it either. - Taxman 03:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I second that. Thanks for coming in to save the day!! :D Cheers, Tangotango 03:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

I appreciate your help in dealing with my "fan". Cheers! zephyr2k 05:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Bureaucrat

New elections for bureaucrats on simple.wikipedia are going to start. Would you like to give a hand to simple.wikipedia and candidating here? --M7 17:14, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

My Request for adminship

Dear Angela, thank you for supporting my Request for Adminship. And double thanks for putting me back on the track. I hope it will pass (in 3 days time, it will). Thank you!-- Tdxiang 11:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

New page to Beliefs/Religion section on front.

Hi Angela. Could you please add Bahá'í Faith to the religion/belief section. The page is now at a level of content that exceeds some of the beliefs listed there. If changes to it need to be made before hand, such as simplification of language, please let me know. I tried to keep it to BE1500, but I'm new at this. - Christian Edward Gruber 20:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Complaint

You seem to be an admin... I'd like to complain about User:Netoholic about his irrational behaviour concerning a spelling dispute. See his talk page ("Basic English, again") for details. DenisL 15:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)